#102878: "No color won, the game should have been a complete draw, but it still went to normal tie breakers"
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No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
End game.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
End game.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
End game.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
End game.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
End game.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
End game.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
No color won the war.
Black 3, Blue 3, Red 3
Black Axe 2, Blue Axe 2, Red Axe 2
Black Flag 2, Blue Axe 1, Red Axe 2
Black and Red were tied therefore the game can't have a player winner. Yet my opponent who had less stones still won. It should have been a complete draw as a player wasn't allowed to win per the rules.
From the rulebook:
6. The Winning Faction
If all players Negotiate consecutively
on their turn, the game ends and the
faction that rules the most areas wins.
The first tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the axe.
The second tiebreaker is the faction
with the most stones on the flag.
If all else fails, no one wins.
So you can't even determine a player winner if there's no faction winner first. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
Report history
boardgamegeek.com/thread/3002700/question-no-one-wins-and-losing-faction
And here is where she says all these rule clarifications are correct
boardgamegeek.com/filepage/252122/turncoats-rules-end-game-clarifications
Which includes this clarification:
2. WINNING FACTION
The Faction that rules the most areas wins.
If tied, the tied faction with the most stone on the axe wins.
If still tied, the still tied faction with the most stone on the flag wins.
If still tied, there is no winning faction and there is no winning player.
This game ended the same way, it shouldn't be that easy to force a win, just end the game on a color tie with less stones?
boardgamegeek.com/thread/3161778/all-factions-lose-no-player-wins-or-least-stones-w/page/1
Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.
In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.
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- Did the problem appear several times? Every time? Randomly?
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