#106382: "Skipping a player out of time is heavily exploitable by players that are losing in tournaments"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v119
Report history
Started a real time game. As soon as we did, Joshua got off to a bad start, and claimed that he got a phone call from work and could we please please please switch to turn-based.
That was a week ago, the game is still going and Joshua has been late every single time by hours. Sometimes days. Probably cost us all 4 days if you added up all his late time.
I am three moves from an easy victory, so it would cost me win points if the game ended now.
I agree with suggestion 1: Let the game play out without that player. Perhaps turn him into a passive drone car to complete the race, so that a losing player can't disqualify a winning player.
It already happened months ago. The race does now complete without that player. See the Heat wall here: boardgamearena.com/group?id=14686320.
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- Did the problem appear several times? Every time? Randomly?
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