#119755: "Impasse draw rule?"
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
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Google Chrome v123
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
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• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
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• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Two of translatable texts mentions the impasse draw rule and the point limit is described as '30 points'.
However, I can't find 24 points limit (which is the current official rule of Japanese Shogi Association) anywhere in the texts. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v123
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Longer answer: there are a variety of rules used across federations and online websites for impasse: the 24 point rule, the 27 point rule, and some weirder ones (Shogi Wars and Lishogi used to have the "try rule", where the first to get their king on the opponent king's starting square would win).
The JSA rules (24 points) aren't suitable for online play, because they rely on etiquette and on professionals' ability to assess a situation. Because they require players to agree on a draw it could allow bad behavior online.
FESA and Japanese amateur rules (27 points) are good for preventing draws and such behavior, but can lead to very long games, since you need to bring almost all your pieces in the enemy camp.
Also, since the audience on BGA will mostly consist of casual players, I wanted not to require them to know such intricate rules to be able to end games.
The rule I adopted here is a middleground between JSA and FESA (but closer to JSA). You can draw the game if you have at least 24 points, or win if you have at least 31 points, but it's automatic instead of relying on agreements or declarations. The rules to trigger this automatic win or draw are more relaxed than FESA, you just need to not get checked for a few turns. The rules are described on the wiki: en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpshogi
Hope this answers your question!
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