#131778: "Designate a Demon mover or have it automated"
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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Google Chrome v127
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Having every move of a demon decided with a majority vote by all the players just slows the game down, especially in turn based mode because there are at least a half dozen votes every time it's the demon's turn. Is it possible to have a vote to determine who moves all the demons? Or even better, can their movement be automated?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v127
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I know there is utility in being able to decide the movement of the demons yourself, but having to vote every time is just long and drawn out.
We were actually thinking of making it as a per player option that the player can decide they don't care and have it auto-select for them.
This option would default to on as the true strategic value of movements will be more important at the higher difficulty levels.
Do you think this approach would provide an adequate solution?
Minor Spoiler: Some of the not yet implemented content will deal extra damage to players if moved in a straight line or other such, so implementing the voting system (as per rulebook) was necessary at first.
Would it be implemented that if 2 out of 3 players opt for the automatic option that the third would be the one picking where the demons move?
But we could weight it so auto-generated is 1 vote and user input is 10 votes, effectively making it so the third would always be selecting how they move. Or if all auto-generate a random one is selected. Or if one auto-generates and two/three vote it will select tie-break between the two inputs.
What about a more micro approach? I’m thinking that voting would be required by everyone for the first move of each demon type, but then add a checkbox for “Automate Remaining Votes for This Demon Type” that is available to check at every voting opportunity. That way everyone is engaged to start with each demon type, and if you have skin in the game for that demon type, then you can keep actively voting. If not, or if you trust the others/don’t care, then automate the rest of your votes to speed up the game until the next demon type acts.
For the in between votes (player order, splitting damage, etc), maybe you have a similar approach, but make it per round with a checkbox each time that reads, “Automate Misc Votes for Remainder of Round,” and then reset each round instead of each demon type.
I like the weighting idea, and it could be used with this as well.
Also, semi related, we have something coming down the pipeline for pause triggers. A big challenge in Deliverance is that Interrupts can be played, well, as interrupts. In between a demon's movement and when they deal damage even. So if you know an abomination is coming at you with a smash, this time allows you to spend some courage to gain shield (with the right Treasure equipped) or get some healing, or play that damage prevention prayer card. If demons auto selected, moved, and damaged, most players wouldn't have the time to react to that. I'll post more on that as a suggestion tomorrow. Once that is fully architected it should resolve most of this discussion.
NOTE: not choosing the full path can affect fallback movements and have strategic impact.
NOTE: ONLY targeted angel's controller has a say in the demon's movement.
I think eventually we'll make a table option for Demon Auto Movement:
- Full: No one at this table cares, pick an end spot and path automatically
- Basic (Newly implemented): Only ask if the endpoint will be different and an angel is involved
- RAW: Strategy matters here, the demons will only move without player input if their path is compelled by the rules. Ask targeted angel for input OR (I like your idea of last one to move, but currently I'm not sure if this is tracked internally)
Please note that making an AI on BGA is against the rules, so best we can do is automatic random picking between valid paths. We cannot analyze the board and pick a strategically optimal move automatically. RAW will give you best chance at keeping demons away from your saints!
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