#14229: "Ramsch game is NOT being played properly"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Round 1, Hand 1, Move 7
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When Ramsch is played as a result of no bids, the SKAT should NOT be offered to the players. The game score should NOT double each time a player passes on looking in the SKAT. The Grand Hand option should no be offered.
These are Schieberamsch rule variants that don't belong in the normal Ramsch.
Also, Grand Hand was accepted, but the game was scored as Ramsch anyway. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v79
Report history
Also, Final Scoring did not add up correctly for Winning player, a -144 score did not show up.
Offered Grand Hand after everyone passed, then hand played out exactly as Ramsch, including scoring (-66 for taking 66 points instead of +96 for making Grand Hand without 2). This latter point is slightly moot since there should not be a Grand Hand option anyway at this point.
Round 5 Hand 2 error
Offered Skat to each player, doubled loss for each player that didn't pick up the skat. (Awarded -472 instead of -59.) imgur.com/a/rWYtya3
2) Because of the potential for multiple doubles, losing even one Ramsch in a game of 3-5 rounds overwhelms the scoring. Generally SKAT is played for 12 rounds, making this less of an impact.
3) There is an excellent implementation of SKAT on the apple app store by GmbH & Co. KG called "SKAT lite". They have tournament scoring as an option and standard Ramsch as the default. It would be a good reference for the BGA version.
As written, the next update (which is ready to deploy, but cannot be deployed due to overload) will add the standard Ramsch. It is still an option to switch Ramsch off completely.
The tournament rules may be added soon, too.
If you think we should have longer distances as option, these could be added. But usually on BGA people prefer quick games.
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