#153390: "Adrenaline is not handled correctly when a player leaves the game"
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
From move #1655
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Google Chrome v131
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I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
From move #1655
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Google Chrome v131
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
From move #1655
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
From move #1655
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
From move #1655
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
From move #1655
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I was investigating how the game handles adrenaline once a player leaves the game with the changes being made to allow games to finish even if someone leaves the game, and I don't believe the current implementation is correct.
The game in question here is actually a Championship game, with the event card "if a player spins out they're out of the race". A player spins out on move #1655 and as per that event they're out of that race, from that point on the game gives adrenaline to the players 4th and 5th in what started as a 6 player race. I don't believe this is the correct rules as on page 7 of the rulebook (English wording) it says "give Adrenaline to the last car or last two cars based on the number of cars the started the race, not the remaining cars in play", that seems a definitive statement me that that application is always true, and thus a player out of the race should be counting for the purposes of adrenaline.
There is of course about to be a new relevance to this ruling rather than just the narrow application to this event card, as currently if someone leaves say an Arena game of 5 players, the game will then give Adrenaline to 3rd and 4th, which again does not follow the principle in the rulebook, and it's something that could have a big impact on a race if somebody leaves the race with a few turns left, and someone now gets adrenaline who shouldn't be getting it. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v131
Report history
Player was skipped and the arena game continues with 4. Adrenaline to the last 2 now is incorrect and changes the impact of the game heavily.
with 4 it is only last player with adrenaline, but you could also say, race started with 5, so adrenaline to last 2 players, but 1 player is always last as he is not playing, 2nd adrenaline goes to nr4, thus last player in the race still racing.
Just played a race where i was tucked behind the two leaders in third, and pretty confident that I would win or get second, thanks to this anomaly! Fortunately it didn't effect anything in the end.
Two players out of six either quit or timed out during a championship. Despite not starting or otherwise participating in the races it still applies adrenaline's +1 boost to players 3 & 4. One of the remaining players seems to be exploiting this
Just lost 1st place in this championship game at the Mexico track because the player who was 2nd used adrenaline to get the point needed for the win. He was 2nd and used adrenaline!? It was all because a race had a rule that a spinning out results in quitting the race and so 3 players were out of the race. That way the adrenaline rule moved to the 2nd and 3rd position which is just plain wrong.
- 5 player arena match (4 humans, 1 legend)
- player 4 left the match
- adrenaline was given to player 3 in the remaining game
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