#162655: "Variable Goals not being selected properly"
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The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
This is visible at any point in the game replay by looking at the main game board where the goals are displayed.
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The physical game has 5 discs, double sided, to use for selecting which 4 goals will be in play. When using these, the rule book says:
Variable Goals: Instead of using the 4 basic goals (that are printed on the game board), shuffle the goal tokens, take 4 at random, and place them on top of the basic goals in any order."
But, the BGA implementation seems to have grouped these 10 goals AND the original 4 printed goals into a large pool of 14 total goals, and chooses 4 from those 14.
This can result in a game that is pretty much a joke, since those 4 printed goals are absurdly easy and will almost always occur in the course of typical game actions, requiring no extra effort or planning or sacrificing other plays that might otherwise be better plays. Those printed goals are meant to be beginner goals.
In this particular game, 2 of the goals were from among the 4 original printed goals: Have 2 or more wild Mantas, and, have 3 or more scoring locations in your scoring pile.
In this game, I triggered end game in NINE turns without even playing my Matrona once. I had three total cards in the scoring pile. This is not how the game was intended with variable goals. (And, as noted, not how the rule book is written).
• Which browser are you using?
Microsoft Edge
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Table #653612169
Move #2
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We have two of the original goals and 2 of the variable ones.
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