#167071: "Colonoies: Order of operations wrong when trading on Pluto."
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
413
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
413
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
413
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
413
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
413
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
413
• Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Which browser are you using?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
Report history
Opponent first drew his trade bonus (move 412). Not sure if they clicked on that option or Whatever button.
screenshot: imgur.com/a/jTWHUUn
The same happened to me at table 663278761. Opponenent said he clicked on Draw cards (trade bonus) and after he drew them, the selection automatically jumped to me.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=663278761
Quite annoying TBH.
I.e. main player chose order of operation which also chooses when other player draw. But all discards of other plalyer are queue up at the end of that player action
Also I made colony bonus non optional (i.e. draw->discard is not optional you have to take it)
With 2 colonies on Pluto, I now get both of my draws before my discards. This is wrong. I must draw first, discard after, then draw again and discard after. I may not see the 2nd card before deciding what to discard. This makes multiple Pluto colonies even stronger.
Another thing, didn't experience pluto trading as active player yet, but as non-active yes, in two games and it is now very confusing. Basically you come to game where there is your turn. And you are asked to discard a card. You got a card automatically, but you are not really notified about that (except the log of course), so you might not notice a new card and wonder why you should just discard.
What is even worse, when you come to game where there is your turn, you automatically expect you are going to play a card. So we are getting into very dangerous situation, where people think they are playing a card, but in fact you are discarding it! I know it is written on the top what action you are doing, but since you didn't trigger it in any way (unlike Mars University), then it is very tricky and it will cause a lot of troubles, especially in turn based games.
For any player who received a new card during someone else's Pluto trade - a popup button that says, "you received a new card from Pluto. Confirm and then discard one card" that must actually be clicked before the discard can be selected?
Then I have to hit the button (no "skip" shenanigans as before) and then I draw and must immediately discard.
This removes all the problems.
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