#167603: "Tournament ranking is not fair"
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I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I participated in a Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=366115) and finished with two victories and two defeats, exactly as user darthdalek did. I wondered why she was declared third winner of the tournament and I was given only 4th place when we had the same results. When I asked support about this, Emma from the support team told me "ties are broken randomly by the algorythm". I think this is ridiculous, as it could easily be changed. In such cases, you could give both players a reward for the third place, for example. If you prefer only one player in each rank, there are several tie breakers possible. In this tournament everyone played against everyone, so you could look at the direct comparison between two tied players. I won against darthdalek, so I proved I was a better player than her! Alternatively, you could choose the player who needed less moves or less time, if you want to. Everything would be better than letting the algorythm decide randomly.
In another Giraffe Raffe tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=375146) the same problem occured again: user Cyclope and I had 13 victories and one defeat each. He was declared winner of the tournament and I only second. And once again, I had defeated him, so I proved better! This is really frustrating.
I see this can't be changed for past tournaments, but it has to be changed for future ones. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v126
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