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#20261: "Play order rule is not implemented in this version of the game"
rejected: Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high
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Suggestion: in my opinion, the following would greatly improve the game implementation
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An important rule that isn't present yet in this alpha version is the order to play after role distribution. That is an important part of the rules to give an advantage to players who give high cards to the winners. Players start the new round according to the order of "leaving the game" from the previous round, starting with the last person with the cards on hand. First to play is beggar, then peasant, then citizen(s) (respecting the order if more than one), then prime minister and for last the president. It is very important for many reasons. Who give high cards (beggar and peasant) are the first to get rid of the lower ones too (at the start of the game) and if the president still has a strong hand, when he finishes his hand the beggar is the first to play after the president is out, giving another advantage so the game is more balanced. Without this mechanic game is just unbalanced.• Which browser are you using?
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Jul 5th 2020 4:54 • OmegaK • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:
It's a rule that I saw being referenced in many rule summaries and it's an important part of the games I played in real life.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_(card_game)
"Often, players move seats to sit in the order of their place, so as not to forget the order."
www.pagat.com/climbing/president.html
"For the next hand the players move seats. The President selects the most comfortable chair, the Vice President sits to the President's left, and so on around to the Asshole who sits to the President's right, probably on a crate or packing case."
www.britannica.com/topic/president-card-game
"also change their relative seating positions from deal to deal in accordance with their respective roles."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_(card_game)
"Often, players move seats to sit in the order of their place, so as not to forget the order."
www.pagat.com/climbing/president.html
"For the next hand the players move seats. The President selects the most comfortable chair, the Vice President sits to the President's left, and so on around to the Asshole who sits to the President's right, probably on a crate or packing case."
www.britannica.com/topic/president-card-game
"also change their relative seating positions from deal to deal in accordance with their respective roles."
Jul 20th 2020 22:34 • quaresma95 • Bug has been confirmed by developers:
it's more a suggestion than a bug
Jul 20th 2020 22:34 • quaresma95 • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:
Hi, i never played the game like that but it could be a nice variation. I will to implement that variation when i have more time.
Jul 23rd 2020 13:19 • OmegaK • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:
I didn't know in which category put this suggestion because I never saw anyone play without this rule. But if people play without it, it can be just an option in the future. Thank you for your work.
Sep 20th 2020 5:49 • oceanwaves • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:
I agree with this. right now the beggar gets to start the next round, the 1st + 2nd place players both get better cards, and the peasant is pretty much left hanging w/o the turn advantage and also robbed of best cards. lots of games take place where simply having to wait until 1st / 2nd place players get done playing the round so the best cards are out of the way before beginning to play cards as peasant.
Jan 14th 2021 11:02 • deBoerisTroef • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:
I disagree with the suggested rule (it's part of the fun, plus adds a strategy aspect: it's sometimes a good idea to let yourself demote to Beggar from the Peasant location.
Also, I can't see myself play this game with changing seats all the time. What a hassle...
Having said that - making it an option sounds like a good idea if people like it.
Also, I can't see myself play this game with changing seats all the time. What a hassle...
Having said that - making it an option sounds like a good idea if people like it.
Nov 3rd 2023 20:29 • ufm • Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high:
I agree changing player order each time is too much hassle.
So, implemented the alternative first player rule/downfall/reversing 9 variant instead.
So, implemented the alternative first player rule/downfall/reversing 9 variant instead.
Feb 24th 2024 1:23 • hyramgraff • Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high:
I understand that this would be difficult to implement, but I consider this to be one of the core rules of the game and was surprised that does not happen by default.
Feb 24th 2024 5:14 • ufm • Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high:
President is not the Great Dalmuti which clearly states the seat order is the rank order.
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