#23292: "Price Protection should be once per Decade and optional"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
No because we used the Undo function after the game didn't work as expected. Was between move 369 & 370
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Price Protection says: "Each decade, your company may exhaust this asset to prevent moving backwards"
If you are exhausting the tile, you shouldn't be able to protect you multiple times in a decade
Also, "you may" means it's optional, and no option was given • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v84
Report history
And it shouldn't work for the whole decade, as that is too powerful
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/32703243#32703243
In terms of it being optional rather than mandatory, I'm trying to think of a case where I would NOT want to have my stock price protected from dropping. If there are legitimate cases where that would be of possible benefit, then it's worth pursuing that with the game designer, to see what he thinks. Otherwise it seems like it would needlessly delay the game if a player had to be prompted every time to see if they wanted to use it (especially since it can be used multiple times per decade)
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2493015/capital-asset-price-protection
Did you even read the link you posted? When I go there I see the designer has edited it to reflect the current version of the rules:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/32703243#32703243
also see the thread I posted:
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2493015/capital-asset-price-protection
IF you tool tip over the asset in BGA, you can see BGA is using the current version of the rules. this is a bug and the designer agrees
Hopefully you also saw that I asked the designer about whether you can choose when to use this asset, and he replied that you do get to choose.
Now, I understand this has changed with the 2nd edition, but it wouldn't be easy to change with the implementation because it means multiple actions can be interrupted and switch to the player holding price protection because they now have a decision to make. This changes the flow of the game significantly, and in asynchronous games, this also has a big impact.
Just so you know, I have no intention of changing this in the short term because of those reasons. I'll leave it open for visibility.
Good idea, but knowing this, a player would use this knowledge to their advantage, making this capital asset go from amazing, to complete shit.
imgur.com/a/kvZYdhh
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/35690787#35690787
I believe the BGA implementation is in accordance with this new/clarified rule.
Ooops, sorry! I meant that the BGA implementation is in accordance with the v1 rules.
Note the inconsistence between the behaviour (v1) and the tip text when hovering over the capital asset: the latter reflects the v2 rules!
The v2 rules have changed the ability of the capital asset, and the BGA implementation has thus become wrong.
Clarification by Mr Chandler (author) here: boardgamegeek.com/thread/2256464/article/35690787#35690787
He says: "In the Second Edition, this rule has changed to be a "ONCE PER DECADE" ability. It is no longer a passive ability."
Do not forget to grey out the capital asset once used.
Thank you for your time!
To follow the rules, it should protect only once (not implemented)
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