#23630: "Not able to buy Grain first (with build bonus) and brew Beer afterwards"
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It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Well nothing happend.
I completed my contract and it just went to completed without offering the option on top of the screen what to do first: build or brew.
I double checked this case with the creator of the game Juma and he confirms that in normal circumstances I had to be able to build first, buy grain and brew beer afterwards. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
-
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
So it was my intention to use the beer brew ability of the Clan.
I had foreseen that I could buy grain first but it did not triggered the option what to do first: build bonus or brew.
Just before this case I did the same. But in this case I had 1 grain in my inventory and that triggered the option. So I wanted to do it a second time but with no grain it did not triggered the option.
I think that it is a small exceptional bug.
The game should always offer the option what to do first in case of contract handling with MacEwen and Build Bonus.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
It all happens in round 5 around move 200
a. I had no Grain
b. I had Money and Traders
c. I fullfil a contract with a build bonus and a sheep
d. I slaughter a sheep right beside a grain mill
e. I build a new unit (bakkery) beside the grain mill
I got the opportunity to buy grain AFTER the completion of the contract. But it should offer me the option to do the build bonus FIRST so I can buy grain (I had 13 cash so I could but 2 grain (7-2 cost)). AFTER that I was able to brew beer and gain 9 per grain so it would have been a +8 (2x4) cash total operation. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v85
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If you have no grain the code will not trigger the brew action. These are good intention but in combo with the build bonus you are able to buy grain.
There are 2 options in my opinion:
a. The game is going to perform a full check: what is the pricing of grain, has the player cash & traders, are there mills on the map, is the player able to build beside a mill, ... This will be a long and more difficult way.
b. I think option b is better as this is an exceptional case: just show the option build or brew always first. If a player selects brew without grain it should give a message: build first. Normally players that do this will always build first as they know they don't have grain. If there is grain after the build the option can stay to brew, if there is no grain the contract can be automatically completed with asking to brew (as there is no grain).
I hope this helps.
If you have questions about this case, don't hesitate to contact me.
This is the game:
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=110198316
It all happens in round 5 around move 200.
i found a bug with the Clan MacEwen during the sommer tournament. It occur when you finish a contract with building without tile cost and with houblon on the contract.
if you have at least 1 wheat, you can use the build ability to construct near a wheat Building and buy some additional wheat before transform wheat to Beer to gain 9$. But if you have 0 wheat you can't, your turn pass immediately after doing the building and buy the wheat .
If you trigger a building bonus but don't have the money YET to buy a contract, you don't see contracts and your turn ends. Even if you could have gained the money through the £10 port.
It makes sense not to take the money immediately if you can get it through the "use another port" port.
This happened in one of my game:
move #293 in
boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240122-1000/?table=465960071&player=85578174&comments=86202237;#
Granchy had 9 gold remaining after triggering the building bonus and could gain 7 (10 minus 3) through port. But they didn't get to see contracts.
The UI already cover some of these "port" edge cases by asking, often unnecessarily, if one wants to buy resources when out of money or merchants. It should probably do the same for brewing and picking contracts.
As a (neutral) consequence, we would always get to see 3 contracts that (probably) won't be in the next round/building bonus.
boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/240124-1000/?table=466295214&player=92543535&comments=86202237;#
move #283
We see contracts even though the player can't buy any: imgur.com/a/A5BBkev
I need to test in other situations but it seems pretty safe to deploy
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