#29340: "Hard to translate the game"
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I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I'm working on the hungarian translation of the game and I found it very hard, because the game uses the "ALIVE CATS" and "Alive Cats" texts in every context.
This doesn't bother anyone in english, but the hungarian grammar is more complex. (Sadly ><)
For example:
cat = macska (that's fine)
cats = macskák
2 cats = 2 macska
dead = halott
alive = elő
I count = számolok
I bid = licitálok
I count 2 Dead Cats = 2 Halott Macskát számolok
(this is hard to translte, because I can't swap the word order and the game use the "Dead Cats" text, witch needs to be translated to "Élő Macska" because of other contexts)
I bid 2 Alive Cats = Licitálok 2 Élő Macskára
I need to use more forms of the word "Macska", but it'a actually impossible to do it fine with the current mechanism.
So please try to make the texts more flexible. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v86
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If I were the developer, I would not know how to solve this with the information in this post.
At the moment, the game use translateable texts like:
"I count ${bid_type}!"
"I bid"
"Empty Boxes"
"Dead Cats"
"Alive Cats"
The "I bid" is used in this format:
"I bid" + [a number] + "Empty Boxes" or "Dead Cats" or "Alive Cats"
So the final text is: "I bid 5 Dead Cats"
As I said before, the "Dead Cats" text is used in other parts of the game as well... so it must be translated into other forms too.
As I saw in other games in BGA, they often use texts where only the numbers are changing.
In this game, it would be better to use...
"I bid ${bid-number} Alive Cats!"
"I bid ${bid-number} Dead Cats!"
"I bid ${bid-number} Empty Boxes!"
It would change the whole structure of the game, I guess, and they should make 3 text from 1 to do this.
But in this way, the text would be way more flexible for other languages as well.
And the same with "I count ${bid_type}!" (and with other texts)
It would be better to use more texts, like:
"I count ${number} Alive Cats!"
"I count ${number} Dead Cats!"
"I count ${number} Empty Boxes!"
I hope it's more clear from now. O:)
"I bid ${amount} ${type}"?
Sadly it wouldn't.
The problem is still with the {type}
Or.. maybe if that type's string would be individual.
It wouldn't make sense in english.. because there would be 3 or more "Alive Cats" / "Dead Cats" / "Empty Boxes" strings, with the same format. But in hungarian these should be formed in other ways. Because we format actually the word. (With a whole different logic than the english grammar.)
I'll have to wait at least one day until BGA refreshes itself and starts using the translations.
Until this point, I can't say "It's 100% perfect", because I can't see it in action.
But seeing the "preview", I guess it will make it fine! [Around 90% :D]
Thank you very much for all the effort you put into this game! <3
I'll write if I still have problem with it after the next 1-2 day(s). (But I think I won't need to. ;) )
You can close the report. ;)
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