#31420: "After getting hit with a war token, my coin count went negative"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Kind of. Here's the spanner in the works: when I replay, prior to the Pretorium play, it shows me with 8 coins, which are then decreased (correctly) to 1 at Move #64. So that's weird (and doesn't match the screenshot). Then, on the next move when I build something for free, my coin count goes up to 3 for no obvious reason. So that's also weird. (I don't think Urbanism should have fired in that case because there was no linking and no "free" condition, just a discount that applied, but if it *did* then it should have gone up by *4* not *2*. Or maybe it went up by 4 from -1 to get to 3? In which case the 1 was an incorrect display?) Basically, there's some hinky stuff going on but it's hard to diagnose without seeing the code. If I were sure the parenthetical above were a distinct bug I'd file a separate report for it, but it's too tightly tangled for me to do that.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The rules say (p14) "If your opponent doesn't have enough coins, they lose all of their coins." There's no way to go negative in the in-person game because money is managed with physical coin tokens, so if you would otherwise go negative you should just go to zero.
Screenshot:
blahedo.org/bga/seven-duel-negative.png
This is Table № 137320811 at Move #64. I suspect the cause had to do with my opponent having the Strategy token, building Pretorium (a three-shield card), and being placed just right to pick up *both* military tokens on the same turn, possibly bypassing some check in the code or checking against the original instead of current number of coins or somesuch.
• Which browser are you using?
Firefox v80.0.1
Report history
Before the Pretorium you actually had 10 (!) coins. The Pretorium play made you lose 2 + 5 coins, leaving you with 3.
So for some reason the coin count was wrong before hand. The jump to 3 ("for no obvious reason") was correct and is the server side sending the current coin count again to the client side.
I will have a look at keeping the coin count more robust, currently it is probably too reliant of animations being properly finished, which is probably why things get wonky in replay as well.
Btw, in the screenshots I see that the font on the coins and Victory points icon is wrong, what OS are you on? The bug report only says Firefox v80, I just checked Firefox v81 on Windows 10 and the correct font shows up.
It was set off by a military token as well. Running on safari on a mac.
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