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#37289: "fear 2 don't respect the new fear rule"

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Super Fantasy Brawl #158792243

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Rules: a rule of the game has not been followed

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Mar 26th 2021 13:23 • Bwaaaane • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

ras

Mar 29th 2021 23:32 • Thagor • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

Happened again in game boardgamearena.com/table?table=159740006, action #145

Apr 5th 2021 01:26 • Toooomm • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

No bug here.

Apr 5th 2021 03:26 • Thagor • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

What do you mean no bug? The new rules released by Mythic a month ago (March 9th to be precise) clearly states that each step of the fear has to get away from the source. Currently, it is not happening on BGA. BGA follows the old rules. We have countless examples, like the two posted here.

If you want to see the new rules, check yourself : www.dropbox.com/s/h4lxt7fp0ud83ru/SFB_RULES_RETAIL_EN.pdf?dl=0

Page 7, you got the rule about "moving away", then page 15 you have the definition of Fear, where it says you have to Dash away, Dash being a movement. So Fear has to follow the "moving away" rule.

Apr 5th 2021 13:27 • Toooomm • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

New rule of fear : "... If multiple choices are available, the Champion must choose the one that takes them
the furthest away from the source of the Fear, moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can"

So basicaly in your exemple "the Maximum Dash value" has only 1 possiblity. Every other case make you dash only 1 hex.
See with image : imgur.com/a/tFGbyi8

Apr 5th 2021 15:25 • Merle • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

Thagor is rigth.

In the new rules:
§ Towards and Away (p.7)
"When an effect instructs a Champion to moveawayfrom a game element, each step should increase the distance between the Champion and the game ele-ment. If this is not possible,the Champion will not move."

§ FEAR X (p.15)
"If an Action or Reaction applies Fear, the Champion who suffered the Fear effect must Dash Xin a direction of their choice, as long as it is away from the source of the Fear. If multiple choices are available, the Champion must choose the one that takes them the furthest away from the source of the Fear, moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can."

@Tooooomm : when it comes to rules, Thagor is usually 99.99% accurate ;)

Apr 5th 2021 15:28 • Code 47 • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

@merle
alright, so where should Akhet have dashed 2 in this exemple ? Because rule says it cannot dash only 1.

Apr 5th 2021 15:43 • Merle • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

"moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can." means 1 hex only, either 3'o clock, 5h o'clock or 7'o clock here.
Because a second hex here won't increase the distance between Alistair & Akhet, so Akhet can't "move away" any further (1 to 2, then ? 2 to... 2 ?).

First hex needs to increase distance (move away rule) then an another hex can't "move away" since the distance stays 2 in all the ways + (I think) you can't break a dash 2 in dash 1/dash1.

Dash X rules p.15
"A Dash is a straight-line movement of up to X spaces where the dashing Champion must stay in the same hex row of the hex grid."
=> "up to X spaces" is important there.

Apr 5th 2021 15:49 • Merle • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

In easier words, Fear X is always as if the source uses a shotgun now. If Fear X isn't possible, then try Fear X-1, and so on.

Apr 5th 2021 16:07 • Toooomm • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

Oh, so everything depends on the rules priority there.
Either the priority is to Dash 2 as in "moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can", or the priority is "move away" rule.
I have to admit that if you compare this mechanic to the fear in real life, if you want to get away from something, you dont move just next to it :D

Apr 7th 2021 11:29 • hvg3akaek • Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet:

happened here, too:

boardgamearena.com/9/superfantasybrawl?table=161423079&replayFrom=211

Apr 12th 2021 13:30 • Mistergos • This report has been claimed as solved by a bounty hunter on the studio and needs to be checked and deployed:

claimed

Apr 12th 2021 14:43 • Mistergos • Bug has been fixed:

fixed

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