#37787: "Not all Technology cards not revealed"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Its visible at every game
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Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Its visible at every game
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Its visible at every game
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Its visible at every game
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Its visible at every game
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Its visible at every game
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When a player discovers a technology, they must reveal cards from the top of the deck until they get two of the correct type.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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On the one hand, we could say that's fine: new players don't know the contents of the decks anyway, so it's less important that they know which card is on bottom.
On the other hand, it further disadvantages all but the most experienced players, which is undesirable. You shouldn't have to know the name of every technology to be able to play well.
For that reason, I'm not inclined to simply add a log message telling which cards are now at the bottom, but if you have a solution to bridge that gap, I'm willing to rethink that. Perhaps listing all of the technology cards in the "How to play?" or "Strategy tips" sections -- it wouldn't help non-English players, but it would be better than nothing.
However, I agree that not memorizing the technologies would hurt new people, as well as people who know remember technologies by their color pair rather than their name.
One thing that comes to mind is the UI for the advanced research cards in eminient domain on this site. The stacks are shown beside the board, and clicking a stack would show all cards in it. So we could have a II stack, III stack, and IIII stack. This would be a lot easier to reference than a list in Strategy Tips.
Since it's a board game first and a digital implementation second, it should follow the rules of the game.
Regardless of how "undesirable" it is to have a high skill ceiling.
It also changes the balance of the game when playing among experts: The later one researches unknown technologies, the more informed the decision about the color becomes (i.e. if the first player to reach a level 4 tech puts a few additional cards at the bottom, one can easily obtain a scenario where for some colors one has the guarantee to have some technology as one of the two choices). After all, there are only 4 possible matches for every color at level 4, and most of these are shared with other colors. Not having this information removes a significant advantage the rules give to the second/third player to pick up a level 4 tech.
This needs to be fixed since the current implementation of tech card draws violates the rules of the game, which explicitly require all techs of a color to be revealed before cycling occurs.
It occurred on purple player's 3rd to last turn. He pulled a repeat red tech and did not pull planetary scale research, which had not yet been seen in the game.
It's really frustrating difference from game rules, as it makes planning ahead more difficult than it should be. I can image that beginners don't pay too much attention to the lengthy playlog anyways, so it wouldn't necessary make the experience that much worse to add log entry with the revealed techs.
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