#40307: "According to official chess rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Any time you can offer a draw INSTEAD of doing a move. It should be doing a move AND offer a draw.
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
According to official rules, you can only ask for a draw (Remi) after you made your move, not before making a move. In the current implementation, you can either make a move OR ask your opponent for a draw. In a real world game, you have to make a move and ask for a draw while it’s your opponent‘s turn
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v14
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1. When can a draw offer be made in online play
2. When the virtual chessclock automatically stops for one player and starts for the other.
1. When can a draw offer be made in online play
Article 5.3 of the FIDE ONLINE CHESS REGULATIONS:
"The player can offer a draw in accordance with any method provided by the playing zone."
Article 5.2.3 of the FIDE Laws of Chess taking effect from 1 January 2018:
"The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game , provided both players have made at least one move. This immediately ends the game."
There is nothing to say that a draw offer cannot be made in *online* play using the provided method ("Propose a Draw" button) at anytime during the game, "provided both players have made at least one move".
Bug: the "Propose a Draw" button is available before both players have made at least one move.
2. When the virtual chessclock automatically stops for one player and starts for the other.
Bug: on the "Propose a Draw" action, the clock of the player whose move it is stops and their opponent's clock starts.
This is in violation of Article 4.2 of the FIDE ONLINE CHESS REGULATIONS:
"When a player has made his/her move on the chessboard, his/her clock will automatically stop, and the
opponent’s clock will start."
The chessclock must only stop and start on the completion of moves, which is independent of the actions of offering or accepting a draw offer.
handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/OnlineChessRegulations.pdf
handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012018
I support the correction of this serious bug if it turns out (I haven’t checked it).
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