#40617: "poor position of map target for cubes"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
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Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
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Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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I understand your point fully, but the reason I've gone with aiming for the centre of segments and not the front of them comes down to this being a simulation of a boardgame and not a simulation of a car race.
That is: if we were developing an online car race simulation, we'd DEFINITELY have the cars and cubes up against the front lines as you say. But we're instead simulating the experience of playing the boardgame (albeit with some nifty helps like snail trails, which are mainly to help people cope with the the turn-based nature of online play). When people play the boardgame, there is a tendency (obviously this is a generalisation) to put pieces roughly in the middle of the spaces rather than to move them to the front. It's nice, clean, easy to track and looks good and balanced.
That's what we're aiming for here.
I understand that it occasionally turns up some odd results with the snail trails, which for me is the strongest argument for "that's a bit suboptimal", but I don't consider that to be an actual problem: again, the snail trails are to assist players in getting a quick glance at who has moved where since their last turn, and in that regard they work fine: they're not intended to be a simulation of exactly how the car moved.
If I was hearing that the "cubes and cars in the middle of squares" approach was causing actual confusion, I'd give changing some serious consideration, but I haven't had that reported as being a problem. The abstraction of having cars and cubes appear in the middle of squares (including some curvy snail trails as a result) seems to not be causing any uncertainty or mistakes, so the decision between having cars and cubes at the front of or middle of segments is essentially a stylistic one.
I've checked all of this past David Short (the game designer) and he (like me) also fully understands the argument you're making, but is also happy to continue with the current approach.
Thanks again! I'll let you know if thoughts change.
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