#44786: "Card Banlist for Competitive Play"
What is this report about?
What happened? Please select from below
What happened? Please select from below
Please check if there is already a report on the same subject
If yes, please VOTE for this report. Reports with the most votes are given PRIORITY!
| # | Status | Votes | Game | Type | Title | Last update |
|---|
Detailed description
-
• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
-
• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
On occasion the publisher does a bad job of balancing cards and some cards will be too influential towards winning the game. Specifically, Caravan was banned at the 2017 world championship which was organized/run by Lookout Games for this reason.
In terms of the implementation I would suggest changing the "Beginner Mode" option to a "Competitive Level" option, with 3 levels: Beginner Mode, Normal Mode, Normal+Banlist Mode
In addition to Caravan, there should be strong consideration for removing Braggart also, as it leads to wins on its own too often when using a draft setting that starts with 9 or 10 cards. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
Report history
There are statistics that support the banning of Braggart, notably playagricola.com/forums/index.php?topic=4875.msg46846#msg46846 (which features it played in a "Draft 7 of 9, occupations first" format)
This PWR statistic is used by publisher and playtesters during card testing, where the goal is to allow none or few cards above the 5.0 threshold (and Braggart is 6.8 with most of its confidence interval above 5)
So far it only excludes Caravan and Braggart.
Add to this report
- Another table ID / move ID
- Did F5 solve the problem?
- Did the problem appear several times? Every time? Randomly?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
