#46526: "Automatic pass if no call is possible"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
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In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
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Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In turn-based mode, the player discarding a tile still has to click Pass, it seems. They should always pass.
Also, all other players must click Pass even if they have no call possible. Ideally, the game should automatically pass to save a large amount of time when no play would be possible. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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However for turn-based, an option to autopass would be greatly appreciated.
In either case, I think the discarder should be forced to pass.
More advanced options could include "always call for ron" and "always call for pon".
Yes, the discarder should pass automaticly. (That would be a thumps up)
If people want it, with any of the mentioned autopass (if can't make a claim) and or autocall (ron, pon), I sure hope it becomes optional (and don't expect from me to ever turn it on).
Also yes, discarder should not even be prompted whether or not to call on their own tile.
However this is a big timesaver and usually players don't want to be bothered over needless call questions.
Should be optional though.
It's not suited for real time, and I probably won't turn forced autopass on at real time tables. Still I support this option. As I said on other posts without this feature turn-based is nearly impossible to go on.
I have implemented this (optional automatic calls, optional automatic play in Riichi) through player preferences on the studio version, with reasonable granularity. I will update all the suggestions here once it is in production and you can try it out. I am finishing the testing, so should be in a few days.
As ufm says, these options are primarily aimed at turn-based mode. In the realtime version, the time-based automatic pass works fine and is generally the better option (since it obfuscates information, obviates clicking, and is set at table level, i.e., consistently across players).
Some extra info if you care:
Whenever you do something on BGA through player preferences, it is really meant to be a personal preference, originally only for display-related features. Offering these options is thus a compromise and has some downsides. I would fully understand that it might annoy, for example, player #1 to learn that player #2 has set preferences in a way that reveals information about player #2's hand, especially if player #3 or #4 profit from it. As I said, a compromise. These cannot and should not be set at table level since they are situational.
Another thing that might not be obvious to players is that these preferences, which you set in the browser, so client-side, have to be proactively communicated to the server by the game's implementation (there is no automatic syncing). There is no "event" that is triggered (except page reload) when you change these, which means that they can be communicated to the server side only when you perform an action. This is a limitation of the current BGA framework.
@ufm: Thanks for the info on the random false delays. Unfortunately, BGA relies heavily on allotting time to players for their actions, and this would probably clash with that general idea.
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