#62199: "Instantly Win-Card - Allow active player to finish their turn"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
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Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The Instantly-Win-Card finishes the game instntly - so far so good. But it should allow the active player to finish their move to set their points relatively to the other players.
Depending how fast he player holding the card activates it, there is no chance in buing e.g. a colony card, which could move the active player from third to second place. • Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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"When you use this ability, points are irrelevant; the game ends immediately and you win!"
If points are irrelevant, then there is one winner and tied losers.
Obviously, in view of your report, BGA applies a different rule, which is acceptable only if it is approved by the author or publisher of the game, and especially known to the players.
Your proposal makes sense, but it concerns an unofficial rule applied by BGA, the legitimacy of which must first be verified.
When you
use this ability, points are irrelevant; the
game ends immediately and you win! Do
not finish the round. If another player has
more than 40 you win anyway.
it says Do not finish the ROUND, but you should allow to finish the turn of the active player.
So, your comment is off topic, and if it still concerns an existing bug, you’d better create a new bug report.
If you're going to place players using their score up till that point (which goes contrary to the SB ruleset), you should let the turn finish so that rewards may be collected. That could mean the difference between 4th and 2nd and shouldn't be dictated by player's mousing abilities.
I believe that it probably should end right away and the points are irrelevant as the rule states, but the question is: "Is everyone tied for the first available place (i.e. 2nd) or is everyone tied for last?"
In most cases ties go to the first available place, which we see in BGA behaviour when two people are tied for 2nd for example (40, 36, 36, 31). While it's tempting to say "of course that's how you do it," I would suggest that doing it that way might lessen the win of the player using the You Win card. I don't know enough about how ELO is implemented here, but if the winner's gain is based on the position of each player in a multi player game, then the other players finishing 4th might result in better ELO gain for the winner.
In any case, the BGA system may not allow for "setting places" so probably the only practical thing to do is when the You Win is activated, that the other players scores is reset to 0 and they all tie for second.
I don't yet have permission from the publisher to implement any variants like this.
For sure - either way would be an improvement - let the turn finish or rank all the non winning players the same. IMHO I think ranking them all the same would be more consistent with the standard rules of the game as it does say "When you use this ability, <B>points are irrelevant</B>; the game ends immediately and you win!"
I often play for 2nd place when it's clear someone else is going to win, but feel like getting ranked after the You Win gets activated isn't a great metric.
It will be interesting to see what JDC and the folks at AEG say - it may not even be a variant; rather a move to adhere closer to the rules.
Thanks for looking into this!
Either everyone should get their benefits, or nobody should, not just the active player.
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