#62353: "Wasn't given an option NOT to take action after placing caballeros"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
Report history
All regions with the most Caballeros are scored immediately" Action card.
Table #257938244 (playing in firefox 99.0, 64-bits)
Turn 146 - I chose the action to score the region with most caballeros in it, because everybody had some in them but me, and the playets comming after me would benefit the most, so i wanted to block them - i chose the card, placed my caballero's, and then the action was performed without an option not to choose it...
It happened earlier in the game (I think) when opponent pyonfey mad a similar ridiculous choice to score somthing that benefitted not him but two other players (me not being one of them)
It was 10 to 20 points my opponents got handed where they shouldn't have - a real shame because overall the gameplay feels very much like the real deal
Thanks for looking into it
It was not my first time.
This is a critical failure altering the game completely.
It's visible only if you play with the phone in panoramic mode.
Hope it helps
This is a serious UX bug with a huge effect on scoring. The game *does* give you the option to not perform the card action, but this choice is not given to the user in isolation. It is lumped in with another choice to confirm placement of caballeros, and it is also "hidden" behind a non-blue button.
Question 1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]."
Question 2: (screenshotted above): "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement of caballeros] [Cancel] [Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action]."
The BGA/Web conventions for button colors are that (a) standard buttons should always be blue and do only one thing, and (b) only cancel/undo buttons should be red or white.
Please make it a separate step in the flow to prompt the user to either use or not use the special action. This decision does not belong in the place caballeros phase.
Suggested Q1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]"
Suggested Q2: "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement] [Cancel]"
Suggeseted Q3: "You may perform the special action [Use action] [Do not use action]"
Alternatively, a quick code hack could be to reorder and change the copy on the buttons to read "[Confirm placement and perform action][Confirm placement and skip action][Cancel]" (...blue then blue then white buttons). This kind of change would remove confusion for me, at least.
I have been enjoying this game more the last couple of months. And while the buttons are now a little wordy, I haven't once gotten messed up by the logic flow like I did before. Thanks!
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