#75818: "Allow food conversion and rearranging animals at any time (not only when it's your turn)"
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I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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Google Chrome v107
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v107
Report history
"You may rearrange your animals on your Home board whenever and how often you like as long as you abide by the following rules." and "To feed your Dwarfs, you may convert goods into Food at any time (without constraints). "
Another solution would be to perform the harvest phase simultaneously, which was rejected before because the decision of one player might influence other players.
I added a comment to the other proposal request, because i didn't find the spot in the rules that states the harvest phase should be played one after another player.
Also, animals reorganization is automatic, it only need human action if you don't have enough room for them.
So yeah that could speed the game a bit, but not sure it's worth the complexity of code.
Which also means you should never have to discard an animal. After Breeding, if you have too many animals and not enough space, you would immediately convert them into Food.
This is not Agricola, where they wander off and you lose the benefit of breeding completely.
I know its a fair amount more programming but it would be enough to make me play it much more because the down time on others turn in this game can suck, especially when you can see, oh i want to just move those animals over there while I wait but I can't.
I would be satisfied if instead of "anytime", conversions and rearranging were simultaneous only during the harvest phase. Permitting other players to make swooshing noises and movements during your turn could be distracting while you are trying to think.
That said, the current situation of forcing you to wait while 2-6 other player perform their conversions 1-by-1 explode the playtime in such a way that is insufferable. This might be the only game where I think live play could beat BGA for playtime, and it's entirely for this reason. The expected playtime for a BGA 4 player game is reported as 2:40, and the harvest phase is probably contributing 30 minutes to that total.
The argument that someone might change their harvest based on my harvest is such an infinitely narrow use case, I fail to recognize the validity of the argument. At the very least, simultaneous harvests could be an option, and the current "excruciating mode" should be made a non-default toggle.
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