#77238: "Group Stage Tournament Mode: allow 1 Group"
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I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
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I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
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Google Chrome v108
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I elaborated creating 1 group 1 swiss multiple matches. Then First 3 to play a championship game once more.
However Set up does not allow me to create only 1 group. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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See page 24 in Pokemon tournament rules, all major pokemon TCG and VCG tournaments are run with this format. www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/play-pokemon/rules/play-pokemon-tournament-rules-handbook-03092020-en.pdf
These are common in Magic: the Gathering tournaments as well, with players earning X-1 record or better always advancing to Top 8. This makes Swiss tournaments similar to Double Elimination but way easier to do pairings and brackets. see here blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/mtr-appendix-e/
3p, 4p or 6p Swiss tournaments that want a top cut finals. Current system forces organizers to make 2 or 3 groups which splits the player base for no good reason. Match quality diminishes quickly since players will run out of similar scored opponents quickly and point cutoffs to advance often get messy and unfair.
For example a 3p tournament needs 3 groups to make a finals with 3, 9, or 27 players (1, 3, or 9 per group qualify) because we cannot select only 1 group.
*Because the players are split 3 ways after a few rounds players will run out of similarly skilled opponents and matchmaking will get worse over time. Only HUGE games with 200+ tournament size can overcome this IMO.
*Uneven player counts in each group results in more uneven table sizes or more byes. This is brutal for smaller tournaments especially. For example a 24 player 3p tournament should have 8 tables of 3, but if it is Group Stage with 3 groups it is 6 tables of 3 and 6 byes or 3 tables of 2p.
*Qualifying players from 3 groups instead of 1 big group also results in more messy cutoffs to finals. More players with equal score to the bottom of cutoff will be eliminated and point cutoff may vary between groups.
Example: drive.google.com/file/d/1X_YnabqVdlqgI9eKEjKqfz-gEPh5TTox/view?usp=sharing
I created a tournament that would benefit with only one group in first stage:
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=455831
I have campaigned to get the votes from 15 to 81 in the last month so I think this is worth referring to BGA admins or the new community manager.
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