#94317: "Trading Fee not paid when player later gained enough money"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v109
Report history
So, the bug then (which violates the game rules), is that the trading fees were not paid immediately when player gained enough money through dividends. The fees were only paid when the player gained money by selling shares shares. Also, unpaid trading fees were not visible to other players, when the game rules state that they should be revealed/placed in front of the player.
Move 106 - player received 2k from dividends, no money was deducted to pay for the accumulated 3k fees.
Move 131 - player acquired another 3k of fees, kept to be paid later
Move 143 - player received 6k dividends, yet no money was deducted to pay for the 6k accumulated trading fees
Move 166 - player sold 10k worth of shares, only then 6k of accumulated trading fees were paid.
Not paying the accumulated fees immediately when money became available (even from dividends) as the rules require allowed player to bid on stockpiles in the succeeding rounds, forcing other players to bid higher. This would not have happened if the player had no money left.
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