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About Romain672

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  26 years old
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---> Don't hesitate to talk about strategic with me, I really like that. And I consider I'm really good for the theory.
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Here is my two favorite move (conventions?) on hanabi who aren't on bga. I really like them cause they are coming from logic. The first one just want Bob to be carefull about what he clue, and the second one is just totally 'logical' for me.

I] Layered finesse :
Alice start.
Bob's hand : x-x-r3-x
Cathy's hand : r1-x-x-5
Donald's hand : g1-y1-y2-r2

Alice clue red on only r3 to Bob.
Bob have a different reaction depending if he play with layered finesses or not.

If no (bga), he is allowed to clue 1 to Donald. So Cathy play r1 as r1 in blind. And Donald bomb y2 as r2 in blind. Sad.

If yes, he saw that his red could be r1 (no finesse, but very strange clue from Alice then), could be r2 (r1 finesse), or could be r3 (layered finesse : g1+y1+y2+r2). So he is not allowed to clue any r1, g1, y1, y2, or r2 on any hand. So he just clue 5 to Cathy. Then, Cathy play r1 as r1. Then Donald play g1 as r2.
Now, here is the interresting part. Bob know Donald play g1, so it's a bluff, so he have r3. So he discard.
But now, from Donald point of view, Alice let Bob stomp the finesse by clueing green or 1 on g1 to Donald, which would make donald play slot 2. But Bob didn't do it, instead he did something else which are less valuable than clueing a g1. Why? The answer is simple, cause Donald have this r2. So Donald will continue playing. He will try to play y1 as r2. Then y2 as r2. Then he will be 100% sure to have r2 in slot 4.

Please note it work cause g1 can't be bluffed by the red clue. On this situation :
Alice start.
Bob's hand : r1-x-x-x
Cathy's hand : g1-y1-y2-r2
Donald's hand : x-x-r3-x
If Alice clue red to Donald, Bob play r1, Cathy play g1, but Cathy isn't promesse r2 : Bob was forced to play his r1 cause it can be bluffed. And Cathy's was forced to play her g1 cause it can be bluffed. So, Donald figure he have r3. But Cathy should not assume r2, cause both Bob and Cathy played their slot 1 cause of bluff.

If I explain differently, in the first situation, Bob play before Cathy, so Cathy and Donald aren't in bluff seat : they can't be bluffed.
On the second situation, Bob and Cathy are in bluff seat : they can be bluffed.
(don't hesitate to ask me more information about layered finesse, it's not easy to understand, but it's very powerfull and for me 'logical' )



II] Ejections.
Played : y2.
Alice start
Bob's hand : ?-?-?-?
Cathy's hand : x-x-y2-x
Alice clue yellow to Cathy.
Bob check again the clue, and said to Alice : "What the fuck?".
The end.


More seriously, Bob does not assume Alice did a mistake. Instead he try to think about what he can do.
Clueing 2? No, Alice haven't done a mistake.
Nothing? No, Cathy will bomb y2.
Playing slot 1? No, Cathy will assume she have y4.
y3+y4+y5+y4 on Bob's hand? Yeah, but instead of playing Hanabi, you should play the lottery instead.

So it need to be something else. I like to add the word 'logically', you have not much choice left : playing in blind slot 2, 3, 4, or the chop.
And since playable card have more chance to be in early slot, on another hanabi group, we play slot 2. But there is some argument for playing the chop.
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